Stealing

[HR-Trevor]

That gives me a few bugs to check into. I hadn't really intended it to be used on huntables originally, and it's showing.
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato

-- Trevor Rage / Rich Mondy

[tygerwulf]

It would be cool if, when there are penalties for stealing, it would include wary shop keepers. Like have 2 seperate timers, that shop keeper won't sell you anything or buy anything from you for a certain amount of time. And then after that time expires, they will buy and sell at a reduced price for a while. Just a thought.

EDIT: Oh, and the timers would be longer for stealing items then they are for stealing a few credits. Way longer.
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can the alignment shift of stealing be based on the alignment of the target itself, sorta like combat?
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A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death.

[Brokyn]

[HR-Trevor]

[Seth Ventril]

Not to challenge you or anything but before someone else says it: Robin Hood.

And if you're Good aligned, and you steal from an Evil aligned, isn't it safe to say there's a purpose in said stealing simply beyond "Man, I'm broke and need GP's for that Vorpal Brilliant Light Hammer-Axe".

Unless it's a problem with diversion of resources from Live to Beta. In which case, Stealing is very evil >.>
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Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]:  Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Korell Ventril exclaims, "Choo ain no guard! Choo a crackhead!"

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[HR-Trevor]

You're overestimating the complexity of the alignment system. It doesn't understand situations, just the act, the offender, and the offended.

Now, I think the closest thing to a realistic medium I could do here (because I don't think stealing from an evil person should give you a good alignment) is to lower alignment when stealing from good, and do nothing to alignment when stealing from anyone else.

It's also worth pointing out that we have a 3 tier alignment system on a single axis: good, neutral, evil.

It's very hard to emulate certain fictional characters. Robin Hood would be considered chaotic good, whereas someone who stole from good and evil alike to keep the money would be considered chaotic neutral, not evil.

We don't track what you do with the money you steal, it's assumed you keep it (and you usually do).
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato

-- Trevor Rage / Rich Mondy

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[HR-Trevor]

There's ample historical (talking RL here) precedent for killing being considered a "good" act, but not for stealing.
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato

-- Trevor Rage / Rich Mondy

[Seth Ventril]

Not that I steal or anything, >.>, but could CASE maybe factor in amount of money? I see this happening more with PC stealing, but it could work with mobs too.

You take a moment to look over a koru hunter. For most people you think he would be a difficult mark. For you? Well, you figure that out.

You guess he is carrying a moderate amount of cash.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Or something to that effect.
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Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]:  Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Korell Ventril exclaims, "Choo ain no guard! Choo a crackhead!"

[HR-Trevor]

It would kind of be repetitious. The higher the difficulty, the more the cash - always.
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato

-- Trevor Rage / Rich Mondy

[Seth Ventril]

I've recently became an agent (No use pretending to hide it. No one's buying it. *chuckles*). And I love the profession. Especially since I started playing Neverwinter Nights and went on a D&D style rogue kick. But Agents are like Rogue++, which is awesome.

And with stealing being a new system and all, I thought I might make two suggestions.

1. CASEing a "victim" could show if they've been stolen from already. I'm not sure if two agents can steal successfully from the civilian thing (A per agent amount of money) or if it's a one time shot. And I don't always kill what I steal from, so sometimes civvies and critters are wandering around that I've pick pocketed. Maybe something like:

You take a moment to look over a young shopper. For most people you think he would be a fairly easy mark. For you? Well, you figure that out.
Glancing over a young shopper's coin purse/wallet/whathaveyou, you think this person has been cleaned out already. (OR something to that effect).
Roundtime: 5 sec.

Secondly, and this one is more of a pet peeve than anything, but could the stealing message be made to discern if you're in hiding or not?

This happens to me quite alot:

>hide
You slip into hiding.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
>case tracker
You take a moment to look over an aging tracker. For most people you think she would be a fairly easy mark. For you? Well, you figure that out.
Roundtime: 8 sec.
>steal tracker
You approach an aging tracker and bump into her, attempting to snatch some credits while she is distracted.
Roundtime: 7 sec.

Just kinda irks me a bit how I'm trying to maintain anonymity but here I am bumping into people from the shadows >.>

And I end this with a question:

Does casing offer an invisible bonus to stealing (If you can reveal it that is)? Just wondering because I seem to do much better at stealing if I case first.
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Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]:  Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Korell Ventril exclaims, "Choo ain no guard! Choo a crackhead!"

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hiding doesn't always mean "behind a wall" or something. so the bump thing isn't really that bad.
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A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death.

[Seth Ventril]

But I can never remember a time when someone has bumped into me and I didn't know he or she was there and what they looked like and if my wallet was still in place. Hiding is hiding. Whether in a closet, behind a bed, or creeping in the shadows. And I can't remember the last time I tried to hide and bump into people.
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Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]:  Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Korell Ventril exclaims, "Choo ain no guard! Choo a crackhead!"