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Sainji
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: Sculpting suggestion re learning experience |
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I know that learning from sculpting is a bit on the poor side so I thought I'd open up a discussion regarding increasing such. I was thinking more along the lines of how much roundtime and messaging when we sculpt.
Here is what I have come up with so far:
Inserting a line between You wet your hands and slide them over the clay. Applying force, a <project type> begins to take shape.
I'd like to see something to the effect of this: You rewet your hands and slide them over the <project type>, bringing out the finer details. You feel that you have made an <inferior, average, superb project type>.
Cutting down the roundtime of the first message since that can be over 100 seconds, and perhaps cutting it in half. Then the second message I suggested can be the other half of the first message's roundtime.
The inferior, average, and superb reflect what you can do at your skill level. So if you get the inferior you know it ahead of time and not as the end result. Ergo you can press the clay and start over again if you don't like the results.
I'm also assuming that each message is when you learn the sculpting skill in nskills. If this is not the case, well back to the drawing board.
Anyone else have any suggestions on what they would like to see message wise?
Regards, _________________ Sainji & Mina |
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Kit Cybertech Extraordinaire~
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Sculpting suggestion re learning experience |
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Though I haven't played an artisan in awhile...I've wondered WHY there is so much round time. Sculpting would be more profitable/fun if the roundtime was cut down to put it more on par with tailoring.
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1. Put sculpting roundtimes on par with tailoring...meaning, give people more things to do then just watch the 100+ rt. More verbs...or just type the command however many times it takes....botching and fixing or whatever.
2. Give different projects different roundtimes. _________________ "I reject your reality and substitute my own!" -- Adam Savage
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Though I haven't played an artisan in awhile...I've wondered WHY there is so much round time. Sculpting would be more profitable/fun if the roundtime was cut down to put it more on par with tailoring. |
To reiterate the line of thinking behind the design of pottery -- we never intended for players to make tens of thousands in cash every hour (or millions in a few days time), in spite of the fact that it's pretty much the benchmark payout on new (and refurbished) systems these days. Pottery still strictly adheres to the original economic model (time involved, payout, time applied, etc) decided on by the (those who are now) senior GMs, which means that pottery is inarguably the most economically unbroken system in the entire game. _________________ Mickey Brunner
To make a long story short, don't tell it.
I may be going nowhere, but I'm going nowhere fast.
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Kelvin Watt says, "I stopped drinking coke when no longer drinking beer didn't make my gut disappear."
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Kaelin Rae nods to you.
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Sainji
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't talking about cash I was talking about skill learning. Where did cash come into this?
Regards, _________________ Sainji & Mina |
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Sainji wrote: |
I wasn't talking about cash I was talking about skill learning. Where did cash come into this?
Regards, |
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the original economic model (time involved, payout, time applied, etc) |
I was responding to Kit's statement. _________________ Mickey Brunner
To make a long story short, don't tell it.
I may be going nowhere, but I'm going nowhere fast.
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Kelvin Watt says, "I stopped drinking coke when no longer drinking beer didn't make my gut disappear."
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Kaelin Rae says, "Wait a minute..."
Kaelin Rae says, "You mean they have a COKE machine that dispenses beer."
Kaelin Rae nods to you.
Kaelin Rae says, "Greaser."
Kaelin Rae looks at you and sighs. |
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Sainji
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Oops sorry, I guess I must be tired and missed that.
Regards, _________________ Sainji & Mina |
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Kit Cybertech Extraordinaire~
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Sainji wrote: |
I wasn't talking about cash I was talking about skill learning. Where did cash come into this?
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And I was talking about making pottery less...boring. Giving people more things to do with pottery. Not new projects, just more things to do with it...more actions. _________________ "I reject your reality and substitute my own!" -- Adam Savage
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ah. Not my department. _________________ Mickey Brunner
To make a long story short, don't tell it.
I may be going nowhere, but I'm going nowhere fast.
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Kelvin Watt says, "I stopped drinking coke when no longer drinking beer didn't make my gut disappear."
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Kaelin Rae says, "Wait a minute..."
Kaelin Rae says, "You mean they have a COKE machine that dispenses beer."
Kaelin Rae nods to you.
Kaelin Rae says, "Greaser."
Kaelin Rae looks at you and sighs. |
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Kit Cybertech Extraordinaire~
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Hmm...yanno...if there were more actions, more room for botching steps, repairing them, or so on, then maybe a character could glean more skill/exp from them. _________________ "I reject your reality and substitute my own!" -- Adam Savage
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HR-Valla
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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At the moment I do not have any plans of re-working pottery. _________________ ~Well behaved women rarely make history~
(Laurel Thatcher Ulrich) |
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Apatheticloser outcast
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:37 am Post subject: |
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HR-Mickey wrote: |
Pottery still strictly adheres to the original economic model (time involved, payout, time applied, etc) decided on by the (those who are now) senior GMs, which means that pottery is inarguably the most economically unbroken system in the entire game. |
I thought you said IG that this is just because you are the only GM that knows the code for sculpting, and havent changed anything sense the begining?
:yawns:
I would love to not just see a 100 second RT.. even making it take as long, could you add in more text messaging? like split it up into three 35 RT messages.. maybe even one of those stating a chance for a critical failure resulting in the sculpter having to restart. |
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Apatheticloser wrote: |
I thought you said IG that this is just because you are the only GM that knows the code for sculpting, and havent changed anything sense the begining? |
I am, and it is, because I haven't. _________________ Mickey Brunner
To make a long story short, don't tell it.
I may be going nowhere, but I'm going nowhere fast.
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Kelvin Watt says, "I stopped drinking coke when no longer drinking beer didn't make my gut disappear."
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Kaelin Rae says, "Wait a minute..."
Kaelin Rae says, "You mean they have a COKE machine that dispenses beer."
Kaelin Rae nods to you.
Kaelin Rae says, "Greaser."
Kaelin Rae looks at you and sighs. |
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