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HR-Faith OCD Grammar Perfectionist
Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 964 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: |
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tygerwulf wrote: |
What was this topic about again? |
The new skill system - converted to discussion of reallocations - converted to a flamefest. So let's all just drop this thread unless you have something to say regarding the new skill system. Thank you. _________________ Counselor Faith Tempest
Medic Guru
hr-faith@haelrahv.com
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." -- Bilbo Baggins --
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dragonseyes
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 186 Location: Guarding the Gates.
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:31 am Post subject: |
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What about GM approved only Reallocates? Like we have 3 reallocates, and we have to find a GM to enter the command for us, so they can check out what we become afterwards. _________________ Haunted are the Great ones, Because they see the Truth.
I know what my problem is, what's your excuse? |
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Platinumyan Master Plush ;(
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 110
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:22 am Post subject: |
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dragonseyes wrote: |
What about GM approved only Reallocates? Like we have 3 reallocates, and we have to find a GM to enter the command for us, so they can check out what we become afterwards. |
Good idea, but people would scream favortism I would imagine. Heck, they already do.
To get back to the off topic (as this isnt a reallocate thread). I have a feeling when the new skill system comes out, reallocates are done. I don't think we have heard a single voice come in here and say after the new system they should still be here (remember this is a thread about the new system). So...if noone is against it, and the staff seems to agree, then really we should already expect the result.
On an on topic (the real one) conversation, Has Psion Nskill learning been looked at for the new system? I found I learned much more Nskill spamming rising missed then when I was over hunting casting piercing stare, lesser scav, and paralyze. I litterally can (and did, thought it iritated me more that it worked then anything) write a script to cast rising mist over and over, run it for an hour and gain more then I had in the previous weeks in Psionics.
Just an question.
Yan _________________ You lay a hand upon a post with no constructive comments and full of fact-less argumentative diatribe and focus intently upon it.
This object amazingly decreases one's Logic skill.
This object amazingly enhances one's Flaming skill.
This object considerably enhances one's Annoyance skill.
You sigh.
You say, “Great, another one.” |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I guess I'm due to weigh in here. Here's my stance on reallocations from A to Z.
Reallocations were put in to allow players to correct training mistakes, rename their characters for social reasons, and as a means to change professions if you realized you made a bad choice in the CM. They were not put in to allow people to change from A profession to B profession on a temporary basis to get a perk. That is in my opinion an abuse of the system.
My policy on that matter is to not punish those persons because we're getting into the 'judgment call' arena, and if no one has noticed by now, I tend to craft policies in HR that use as little of those calls as possible. I trust my staff's ability to make informed decisions but any system based on judgment calls is prone to some bad calls. However, I reserve the right to punish someone for how they use reallocations if I really deem it that blatantly obvious and necessary. I have not exercised that right to date.
Looking forward, here is what players should expect:
- No reallocations for any reason in the test game once the new skills/advancement is released.
- Likely a system in "Live" where one can choose to forfeit a large amount of experience to have the option to change career paths. When I say large, the first number I'd throw out there as an example is minimum 20 levels probably, and possibly much more.
- Possibly adding a mechanic to change name when sufficient methods to change appearance via Medics exists.
I think the issue of learning what a profession about and possibly changing gears as you learn more about HR is going to be toned down a lot when the adjustments to advancement are in, because those low levels will be significantly easier to achieve.
I think I'm going to shut off reallocations at some point before or when we announce the new skills stuff is about to launch. I do concur that allowing players to reallocate at the last minute has few beneficial results. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Tylen Alpha Antifemale
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1192 Location: Not Colorado
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:28 am Post subject: |
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HR-Trevor wrote: |
I think I'm going to shut off reallocations at some point before or when we announce the new skills stuff is about to launch. I do concur that allowing players to reallocate at the last minute has few beneficial results. |
There's no benefit to not allowing it either. _________________ ** The phrase "break a leg" just wasn't ambitious enough for Mellie Knight. [8:31 pm]
** Mellie Knight was soundly defeated by Aesal Anari-Idia in the Zgedhi Gkenrzeg Rav! [8:31 pm] |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Sure there is. Taking away additional information in such a way reduces the chances of someone exploiting the system if that is their intent. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Tylen Alpha Antifemale
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1192 Location: Not Colorado
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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HR-Trevor wrote: |
Sure there is. Taking away additional information in such a way reduces the chances of someone exploiting the system if that is their intent. |
I suppose if you don't mind screwing over the people who aren't exploiting. _________________ ** The phrase "break a leg" just wasn't ambitious enough for Mellie Knight. [8:31 pm]
** Mellie Knight was soundly defeated by Aesal Anari-Idia in the Zgedhi Gkenrzeg Rav! [8:31 pm] |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Tylen wrote: |
HR-Trevor wrote: |
Sure there is. Taking away additional information in such a way reduces the chances of someone exploiting the system if that is their intent. |
I suppose if you don't mind screwing over the people who aren't exploiting. |
so why don't they reallocate now? _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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Tylen Alpha Antifemale
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1192 Location: Not Colorado
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, I think people who reallocate should be given money and super cool ultra-rare items. _________________ ** The phrase "break a leg" just wasn't ambitious enough for Mellie Knight. [8:31 pm]
** Mellie Knight was soundly defeated by Aesal Anari-Idia in the Zgedhi Gkenrzeg Rav! [8:31 pm] |
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HR-Faith OCD Grammar Perfectionist
Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 964 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Tylen wrote: |
By the way, I think people who reallocate should be given money and super cool ultra-rare items. |
Was that really necessary? I expected better from you. _________________ Counselor Faith Tempest
Medic Guru
hr-faith@haelrahv.com
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." -- Bilbo Baggins --
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Tylen Alpha Antifemale
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1192 Location: Not Colorado
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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HR-Faith wrote: |
Was that really necessary? I expected better from you. |
Sorry, but I find it totally appropriate to express my opinion. _________________ ** The phrase "break a leg" just wasn't ambitious enough for Mellie Knight. [8:31 pm]
** Mellie Knight was soundly defeated by Aesal Anari-Idia in the Zgedhi Gkenrzeg Rav! [8:31 pm] |
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HR-Faith OCD Grammar Perfectionist
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Tylen wrote: |
HR-Faith wrote: |
Was that really necessary? I expected better from you. |
Sorry, but I find it totally appropriate to express my opinion. |
Posting that you wish reallocations weren't going away and your factual reasons for disliking it IS expressing your opinon and is appropriate.
Posting that people who reallocate should get some form of prize for doing so is far from posting your opinion. It is acerbic sarcasm and crosses the line to the ludicrous. _________________ Counselor Faith Tempest
Medic Guru
hr-faith@haelrahv.com
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." -- Bilbo Baggins --
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Tylen wrote: |
HR-Faith wrote: |
Was that really necessary? I expected better from you. |
Sorry, but I find it totally appropriate to express my opinion. |
[william emulation]
[/william emulation] _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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Brokyn LLAMA SECHS
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 3648 Location: Northern Georgia
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Tylen Alpha Antifemale
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1192 Location: Not Colorado
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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HR-Faith wrote: |
Posting that you wish reallocations weren't going away and your factual reasons for disliking it IS expressing your opinon and is appropriate.
Posting that people who reallocate should get some form of prize for doing so is far from posting your opinion. It is acerbic sarcasm and crosses the line to the ludicrous. |
Sarcasm, possibly. Ludicrous, hardly.
It's just as valid as the current majority opinion. I doubt I'm the only one who actually does something useful with reallocations.
Maybe Kit could give us a semi-relevant explanation why society is so much more inclined to punish than reward. _________________ ** The phrase "break a leg" just wasn't ambitious enough for Mellie Knight. [8:31 pm]
** Mellie Knight was soundly defeated by Aesal Anari-Idia in the Zgedhi Gkenrzeg Rav! [8:31 pm] |
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