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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject:
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I'll fix this, and I'll also see about putting some non armor clothing items with bonuses in the fishing system too (in addition to the current armor versions).
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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject:
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Ah, okay so it is a bug. Thought so after the replys. Thanks for the fix, sorry I posted in the wrong spot.
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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject:
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Is Tshar gaining nskill parry as if he has 230 parry ranks? Is that why it's so slow?
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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:00 pm    Post subject:
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It may be that way for parry, but that's not how it works for weapons. I have over 200 unarmed and I'm still gaining that in nskills.
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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject:
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I think it's primarily still an issue of how the math is constructed and I'm looking into it Tshar. I'll post when I make an update so I can monitor your feedback.
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:50 am    Post subject:
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So yeah, after the nskills were reset, here's what I have.

Skill Sheet For Enverdi Blue'el:
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Skill Name Progress Skill Name Progress
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Animal Handling : 0 (10%) Parry : 1 (49%)
Appraisal : 0 ( 3%) Psionic Ability : 0 ( 3%)
Light Armor : 1 (20%) Pulse Weapons : 0 (44%)
Locksmithing : 0 (19%) Stealth : 0 ( 4%)

Now, I hunt in the Fen. You get easily swarmed there. Although I spend a lot of my time retreating, I do manage to get smacked down a lot. However, I spend more time firing my gridgun than I do getting hit, so my question is: Why are my defensive skills doing so well when my Pulse hasn't even hit 50% of the first point?
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject:
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I've been making adjustments to skill gain rates and monitoring the progress, and will continue to do so.
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 Post Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject:
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Does evading multiple hit moves count once towards experience gain or for each hit succesfully evaded/blocked/parried?

Example: Guards attack once. I evade once. That counts as one successful 'defend'.

Kucho uses pummel. I evade all four. That counts as one defend as well or four seperate defends?

It seems as though only a single grant is applied for each combat move, be it a single slash or a four-hit pummel.

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When facing multiple opponents, do you have to be actively attacking each one to receive defense experience gains from them? Or is it just one move on anything that resets whatever timer, if it's setup that way.

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Just some more input. Against Modan Kuchos, Tshar's Heavy Armor skill moves at roughly twice the rate as his evasion.

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One more thing: Being surrounded doesn't teach tactics at all, only circling does. I would think that having multiple opponents on you would teach far better than circling something over and over.
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Does evading multiple hit moves count once towards experience gain or for each hit succesfully evaded/blocked/parried?

Example: Guards attack once. I evade once. That counts as one successful 'defend'.

Kucho uses pummel. I evade all four. That counts as one defend as well or four seperate defends?

It seems as though only a single grant is applied for each combat move, be it a single slash or a four-hit pummel.


The pummel counts as one attack for sake of skill gains.

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When facing multiple opponents, do you have to be actively attacking each one to receive defense experience gains from them? Or is it just one move on anything that resets whatever timer, if it's setup that way.


Just be attacking, period.

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Just some more input. Against Modan Kuchos, Tshar's Heavy Armor skill moves at roughly twice the rate as his evasion.


You gain armor skill while attacking, too. This would explain that behavior. It looks like I should adjust gains a little though.

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One more thing: Being surrounded doesn't teach tactics at all, only circling does. I would think that having multiple opponents on you would teach far better than circling something over and over.


Thanks for the note.
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:27 pm    Post subject:
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I didn't notice any tactics gain at all when circling people.
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject:
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I didn't notice any tactics gain at all when circling people.


i don't think PVP anything teaches.
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject:
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I thought that might be the case.
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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject:
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So I took Tshar to Kuchos today for 2 hours. Here are the combat gains. Keep in mind that I compensated for the time spent looking for mobs. This is pretty much 2 hours of constant dodging with 2-5 mobs on him at once.

Time - 12:00pm to 2:00pm

Evasion - 1.3712 to 10.7439

Tactics - 0.0000 to 8.3185

I used a script that made Tshar jab every 8 seconds with a circle after each jab. Most of the time I tried to have at least 2 Kuchos on him, the most being 5 at one time. So for most of the 2 hours he had between 2-5 Kuchos on him.

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EDIT: I took him just now to Elite Guards and they teach worse than Kuchos which doesn't make much sense seeing as how Kuchos run from him all the time.

On the other hand, they seem to teach pulse really well. Gained about 5 ranks in 30 minutes so far, just shooting them over and over, no aiming and no shooting for a specific spot.
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UPDATE: I took Tshar to Nowbi heh. Learned evasion great but only because of the sheer number of attacks being hurled at him. The exp grants don't seem to be ANY different between nowbi, kuchos and elite guards, which I find strange.

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You also see a nowbi champion, a nowbi archer, a nowbi archer, a nowbi archer, a nowbi champion, a nowbi fighter, a nowbi champion, a nowbi champion and a nowbi fighter.

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