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Should Performers, at some high point in their career, be able to compose one or more new spellsongs?
Why not? It's the pinnacle-ness of Performership, after all.
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"Check out my new spellsong that increases luck, kills everyone with razor-edged pancakes, and gives me 100000xp each time I use it. The Chant of DIE DIE FORNICATE."
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Damnit, Mickey! Stop giving Performers all the cool stuff while (insert profession here) don't get anything!
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Simply, yes.
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Simply, no.
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 Post Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:09 pm    Post subject: Composing Spellsongs
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This is solely out of curiousity, not a hint of any intention on my part.

"Composing", in its abstract, would be creating a spellsong from a list of templates and options by investing extensive in-game time and "research" fees, to invent a Performer-only (or perhaps learnable by anyone) spellsong that can be notated and distributed (or not) by the composer.

Research fees would be determined by a number of factors and modifiers dependent on aspects of the spellsong -- ex. short/medium/long duration, type of effect, area of effect.
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 Post Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:40 pm    Post subject:
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The Chant of DIE DIE FORNICATE was a viable option. But I think this is a great idea. I'm almost jealous. Smile
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 Post Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:08 pm    Post subject:
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Dante wrote:
The Chant of DIE DIE FORNICATE was a viable option. But I think this is a great idea. I'm almost jealous. Smile



666. Jerren from Goats always says 666 with his Die Die Fornicate song.
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 Post Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject:
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Went with option one. I'd hope that the composition of these spellsongs would be fairly regulated by some Counselor dude (or dudette). Not only to make sure everything's balanced, but to also make sure that there maintains a sense of uniqueness between each one (so that you don't have fifty people composing the DIE DIE FORNICATE song).

It would be interesting if you could teach them to others, though. But that would defeat the purpose, I suppose, unless the bonuses/effects would be lessened for anyone other than the original composer. I doubt many people can consistently perform Beethoven's pieces without notable flaws, without countless years of practice and instruction at least.

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 Post Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:17 pm    Post subject:
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Oh great, another way for Haidee to spend my money.
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 Post Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject:
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I'd hope that the composition of these spellsongs would be fairly regulated by some Counselor dude (or dudette). Not only to make sure everything's balanced, but to also make sure that there maintains a sense of uniqueness between each one


I only considered the idea long enough to flesh it out slightly, but it wasn't really much more than a passing "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if..." fancy. Just to give a partial idea of modifiers/factors, I'd throw this out off the top of my head. Note that the math is zany because it's just a fast and loose example.

Code:

Performance Type -- Base Value:
   Dancing:  22000 (no instrument needed)
   Rhythm:   19000
   Singing:   21000 (no instrument needed)
   Stringed:  20000
   Wind:       17000 (wind spellsongs are probably the least used)

Duration Type -- Mandatory Modifier
   Short:    Base * 10
   Medium: Base * 14
   Long:     Base * 20

:Effects:
Skill Buffs Category--
    Performance Type:       +120,000 each
    Combat/Defense Type:   +140,000 each
    Other:                +80,000 each

etc.

:Area of Effect:
   Self:                           No modifier
   Group:                          Total * 1.5
   All In Room:                   Total * 1.8
   Outside Group (aggressive):   Total * 2.2


Edit: Just looking back, I can already see things that are sort of off. There'd be no difference between instrument-based performance types (those previous values just guaranteed every song would be a wind), the 'Other' skill buff category would need to be broken down by skill-use weight, etc, etc.
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Kaelin Rae says, "Wait a minute..."
Kaelin Rae says, "You mean they have a COKE machine that dispenses beer."
Kaelin Rae nods to you.
Kaelin Rae says, "Greaser."
Kaelin Rae looks at you and sighs.
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 Post Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:35 pm    Post subject:
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Actually, I can't think of any reason why an average three-skill buff spellsong would (or should) cost less than a number in upwards of $3.5-$5 million to research.

I'm still speaking hypothetically, mind you. I like the idea that the composer would still have it in their power to notate and control the dispersion of the song throughout the performing masses (within reason, obviously; it assumes you can trust the people you gift it to not to go passing it on to anyone they feel like), but they'd probably still be Performer-only. It leaves a lot of cool character/RP room, in my opinion, for Performers of great skill/stature/reputation to have their crowning work coveted by others.
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To make a long story short, don't tell it.

I may be going nowhere, but I'm going nowhere fast.
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Kelvin Watt says, "I stopped drinking coke when no longer drinking beer didn't make my gut disappear."
---
Kaelin Rae says, "Wait a minute..."
Kaelin Rae says, "You mean they have a COKE machine that dispenses beer."
Kaelin Rae nods to you.
Kaelin Rae says, "Greaser."
Kaelin Rae looks at you and sighs.
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 Post Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:23 pm    Post subject:
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Would it be viable for performers to add an option in there for making it performer only or by anyone for a small additional development cost? IT could default to only the person who created it, or even performer only since the person wouldn't HAVE to notate it for anyone.
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