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dragonseyes
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 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:38 am Post subject: Telepathy and Retrain |
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As soon as I remember where the magic academy is, I will fix this, but.....I have learned NOTHING in Psionics, and yet I can use Telepathy. That's a pretty decent trick for a human!! Anyway, my point is that when I retrained, and didn't relearn psionics, I still had telepathy, not just reception, but I could ALSO send. I had at least figured I would not be able to send, but it was not so.
Hope this helps. 
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Telepathy and Retrain |
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| dragonseyes wrote: |
As soon as I remember where the magic academy is, I will fix this, but.....I have learned NOTHING in Psionics, and yet I can use Telepathy. That's a pretty decent trick for a human!! Anyway, my point is that when I retrained, and didn't relearn psionics, I still had telepathy, not just reception, but I could ALSO send. I had at least figured I would not be able to send, but it was not so.
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Yep, same with me. All of the stuff you can learn without psionic ability is still there. Telepathy, sense object, and mental link all still work...I've bugged it IG but got no response.
Leave Occult Lore, not psionic ability. Glim and Josie explained to me that Psionic ability is what you use to give your abilities more strength...and as far as I know, you don't need that for Telepathy or sense object. Occult lore is all you need.
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HR-Hannah
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Yes, it is odd to be able to use telepathy but I believe this is the way it is for convienience sake. Imagine being a high ranking Psionic or Mage and having to re-study all of your abilities/spells.
The other abilities give you an error saying you don't have enough occult lore. (spell research for spells). I do however think it is this way to make retraining easier on the players. I could be wrong.
Edit: That and several powers are already switched to the spellbook system.
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i know when spell research was tweaked so it wasn't needed for spellsongs, another tweak was put in place so that people couldn't just use spells they already knew without having enough spell research for them all.
since i needed 40 occult since it's a prereq for balance, i personally still had to learn the stuff for all my spells, but i think i was supposed to train up to 56 to actually really know everything.
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dragonseyes
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Heh, how many points required for just telepathy? And in which skills? I'm always so confused about magic stuff.
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soundless
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| dragonseyes wrote: |
| Heh, how many points required for just telepathy? And in which skills? I'm always so confused about magic stuff. |
for a non psionic, you need 8 psionic and 8 occult lore per ability.
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Dzynna
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| soundless wrote: |
| dragonseyes wrote: |
| Heh, how many points required for just telepathy? And in which skills? I'm always so confused about magic stuff. |
for a non psionic, you need 8 psionic and 8 occult lore per ability. |
Not exactly true.
That formula applies for occult lore skill, but psionic ability skill requirements change depending on the psionic power you are learning. However, if you want to be good at the powers you possess, you will want to train psionic ability skill as high as possible:
http://www.haelrahv.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=4284&highlight=psionic+occult
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| soundless wrote: |
| dragonseyes wrote: |
| Heh, how many points required for just telepathy? And in which skills? I'm always so confused about magic stuff. |
for a non psionic, you need 8 psionic and 8 occult lore per ability. |
Just occult lore for non combat abilities. I have 24 occult lore, three abilities (telepathy, metal link, object reading)...and no training at all in psionic ability. As Glim explained it, Psionic ability is the skill that makes attack psionics do more damage...so not needed for telepathy and for things like that.
Might have been nice for a news article on having to retrain telepathy though!
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