New Skill System Transition Discussion

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[HR-Trevor]

I can't say I disagree with your thoughts Yaru, but to clarify, the actual reason we're going to give notice is to make sure you have enough time to read any new info released right before the system is rolled in, and to ensure you have time to think about how to retrain your character's points in light of being able to train by use.
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[Tugor]

It's my opinion that since this is a test phase of a game and not even the live version that we should get an infinite amount of reallocates.

New things are being given to each profession here and there and it wouldn't be fair to totally deny the players a chance to check new systems and mechanics out at all during the developmental stage of Halearahv.
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[HR-Trevor]

I'm not trying to be catty by such a short response, but I disagree with your opinion. That's all that really needs to be said.
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[Dzynna]

[Tugor]

Heh I don't think you're being catty. You're not obligated to explain the reasoning behind your opinions, nobody is.
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[Brokyn]

I kind of see reallocating across professions as a way to show that your character's interests have changed. This isn't to justify the "I'll be agent for awhile so I can make massive poisons then go back to tracker and rape everyone with it" (tracker -> agent -> tracker + mass poison) situation, but more of the "well, my character used to be interested in tailoring things, but after awhile he's grown accustomed to working with mechanical things" (artisan -> technician) situation.

If that makes any sense.

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[Tugor]

Like I said. New things are released for professions, new skills\mechanics\abilities etc. Some of those new things may appeal to someone and pull them from their current profession. We the players usually have no way of knowing when something new is coming out unless the GM decides to keep us updated. New stuff just pops out sometimes with little warning. Which is cool, surprises like that are great.

My only real opinion here is that players should continue to have the chance to be able to try out the new things as they are released via the reallocation system, not to abuse them but to 'check them out'.
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[Josie]

Well gracious didn't mean to open a can of worms here but damn... if you all had read my thread you would have seen that i had said...

[HR-Trevor]

[Tugor]

You're absolutely right Trevor. I recant my previous statement about infinite reallocates. I do stand by everything else I said though, I like having the choice of reallocation if something 'better' comes along before the live version of the game.
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[HR-Trevor]

Truly, the only way I can see us having reallocation at all post new skill system is if it applied serious penalties as we plan to apply in live. That is, loss of a notable level of experience, loss of some trained skills, and then one could re-choose profession and retrain stats/point-trained skills only.
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[Dante]

I changed the thread topic...since no one is talking about Alchemy anymore.

My thoughts on the matter? Reallocations were a very very VERY generous boon that the staff handed us. They could have very well left us with the original profession changing mechanics that have been in since day one instead: REROLL

None the less, since we won't have Reallocation after the switch and I'm happy with how Dante is trained up, I have an extra one. I don't know what I'll do with it. More than likely just let it vanish...though with a fest coming up I could use some cash! But if you're not going to offer me a figure with at least 7 zero's after it (before the decimal point), don't bother.
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[zamde]

Reallocations and continuity/character-interest are mututally exclusive things. The former will always be OOC. Using a hypothetic Zamde reallocation as an example (just choosing a profession at random, let's say Mercenary), there's no viable rationalization that, on top of suddenly no longer wielding vast spellsong power, she's (in a matter of seconds) immediately mastered all techniques and is a hundred times more proficient and capable with a splattergun than a new character; or immediately a dozen times more perceptive than she ever was charismatically. Using vastness of level and internal power (i.e. high level) as an explanation for that phenomenon doesn't work either, because if such inherent (capa)ability were the case, we'd all have every skill maxed and possess every profession ability. That last statement could lead me into pointing out the covetous bitching people are doing about other professions, but that's another argument for another time.

Edit: The point of this post being that switching out professions every time some new money-making/hunting/whatever system is released is the realm of games like Diablo; not an RPG based on perpetuity. If you can't take your own character seriously enough to keep from min-maxing every other week (or, moreover, profession/race-jumping to the point that it's a career), how can you expect other players to?
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